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From: Jim Griffin drgwlpd@yahoo.c... [DRGW] (DRGW@yahoogroups.c...)
Date: 2018-04-16 14:20:08
Subject: [DRGW] F unit musings

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So I was reading thru the Diesel Era article on the D&RGW F unit fleet (199=
9 issue), and a couple of questions came to mind.
1) The author repeatedly states that "internal EMD documents refer to these=
units as F5", referring to No. 556 (later 5561-64 **), the 4-unit locomoti=
ve delivered in late 1948.=C2=A0 It was definitely an interim, or stop-gap,=
model/set of features.=C2=A0 But-- has anyone ever actually produced these=
alleged documents?=C2=A0 Considering that (a) the D&RGW referred to them a=
s F7's, (b) EMD never listed an F5 in their catalog, and that (c) the AFE's=
call them F7's, I have some difficulty in using the F5 nomenclature.=C2=A0=
I suspect that the "F5" designation was simply an informal shorthand that =
the EMD production guys used since it was a blend of F3 and F7 technologies=
..=C2=A0 To me it seems that it was basically a late-phase F3 or early-phase=
F7 (more plausible).=C2=A0 Considering the fact that the other "phases" of=
F-units didn't receive unique model designations, why here?
I guess you can see where I come down on the argument, but the real questio=
n is: where are the documents?=C2=A0 What do they say?=C2=A0 Who wrote them=
?
2) Simpler question: MU Connections.=C2=A0 The nose connections added onto =
the F units are considered an eyesore by some, such as the author of that a=
rticle.=C2=A0 But my question is:=C2=A0 Where did the crews stand while hoo=
king up the connections?=C2=A0 There are no grabs or footrests directly und=
er the MU ports.=C2=A0 Did somebody have to crawl up on the nose and reach =
down?=C2=A0 (Not so much of an issue if MU-ing to a Geep, but another F uni=
t could have been a pain.)=C2=A0 Just wondering if anyone had experience or=
anecdotes that could shed some light.
Happy Monday,Jim Griffin
** Don Strack's website, and Joe Strapac's book, include the 555 and 557 in=
the F5 group.

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<div style="font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;"><div>So I was reading thru the Diesel Era article on the D&amp;RGW F unit fleet (1999 issue), and a couple of questions came to mind.</div><div><br></div><div>1) The author repeatedly states that "internal EMD documents refer to these units as F5", referring to No. 556 (later 5561-64 **), the 4-unit locomotive delivered in late 1948.&nbsp; It was definitely an interim, or stop-gap, model/set of features.&nbsp; But-- has anyone ever actually produced these alleged documents?&nbsp; Considering that (a) the D&amp;RGW referred to them as F7's, (b) EMD never listed an F5 in their catalog, and that (c) the AFE's call them F7's, I have some difficulty in using the F5 nomenclature.&nbsp; I suspect that the "F5" designation was simply an informal shorthand that the EMD production guys used since it was a blend of F3 and F7 technologies.&nbsp; To me it seems that it was basically a late-phase F3 or early-phase F7 (more plausible).&nbsp; Considering the fact that the other "phases" of F-units didn't receive unique model designations, why here?</div><div><br></div><div>I guess you can see where I come down on the argument, but the real question is: where are the documents?&nbsp; What do they say?&nbsp; Who wrote them?</div><div><br></div><div>2) Simpler question: MU Connections.&nbsp; The nose connections added onto the F units are considered an eyesore by some, such as the author of that article.&nbsp; But my question is:&nbsp; Where did the crews stand while hooking up the connections?&nbsp; There are no grabs or footrests directly under the MU ports.&nbsp; Did somebody have to crawl up on the nose and reach down?&nbsp; (Not so much of an issue if MU-ing to a Geep, but another F unit could have been a pain.)&nbsp; Just wondering if anyone had experience or anecdotes that could shed some light.</div><div><br></div><div>Happy Monday,</div><div>Jim Griffin</div><div><br></div><div>** Don Strack's website, and Joe Strapac's book, include the 555 and 557 in the F5 group.<br></div></div>



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